tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18369530.post6792615862281556814..comments2023-06-29T13:25:30.567+02:00Comments on The Editrix' Roncesvalles: Oversexed, Overpaid and Over There with the Noble SavagesThe_Editrixhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07529769143608862966noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18369530.post-52767798808661323522010-06-20T13:12:45.860+02:002010-06-20T13:12:45.860+02:00See, here we have one case where we have to agree ...See, here we have one case where we have to agree to disagree. I am not relativizing, let alone denying, the pain you felt, but opinions based on personal experience and mentality can hardly "prove" anything because somebody else has gone through different experiences.The_Editrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529769143608862966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18369530.post-88113889200110120362010-06-20T12:38:54.045+02:002010-06-20T12:38:54.045+02:00When people's marriages weren't based on t...When people's marriages weren't based on their personal fancies, there were a lot more concubines (most of them going unnoticed because they were of the servant class and did paid work around the house beside satisfying the emotional needs of master or mistress - as the great Neapolitan comedian Toto' asked, what is the servant for if she doesn't serve?), a lot more people leaving the house to live alone - separation was an acknowledged legal condition - and one Hell of a lot more people who died young. That is one matter that should never be forgotten. When most people die before their forty-fifth years, that means that most marriages do not last long enough to reach the current age of average divorce. Even so, I feel confident when I say that the sexual morality of our fathers was not any better than ours.<br /><br />And of course a person in love can force himself away from what he loves. In the same way, a bear with his leg caught in a wolf trap and a pack of hounds on his trail can rip his paw off with teeth and hobble away on three legs and one bleeding stump. Both things are about as easy and pain-free as each other. And since I am speaking from experience here, I don't see how you could contradict me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18369530.post-69794236666923399692010-06-19T21:16:23.225+02:002010-06-19T21:16:23.225+02:00"Debate is about YOU risking YOUR certainties..."Debate is about YOU risking YOUR certainties, not about the other guy risking his; and it is only from the other guy's point of view that the opposite is the case."<br /><br />That is very well said. The Internet can be both, a blessing and a curse. I think that communicating with so many different people has taught me a lot over the years. I do think, too, that we ought to be open to other peoples' views and ideas, specifically if they are backed up by sound information, and come, if possible, to at least a partial synthesis (not sure whether that is the correct term). If that isn't possible, I find it perfectly alright and intellectually honest, as you did in the case of the Beak's obsession with "commies", to say "I refuse to discuss that any further."<br /><br />That said, I just re-read the thread about incest and "having to" fall in love. I still stand by my words. Again, I can have only limited knowledge of how men "function", but I remain adamant that if a woman notices the first symptoms of "falling in love" and the man is out of bounds, she CAN backpedal. The notion that this is not possible is self-indulgent, evil and has done more harm to society than most other weaknesses. Reversely, women who are even older (and wiser too) than I say that a girl, married young, can learn to love any good man. But that is beyond my own scope of experience. All I can say is that we had more stability when marriages weren't based on peoples' personal fancy. Are people happier now with all that "love"? I doubt it.The_Editrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529769143608862966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18369530.post-56217035866588353232010-06-19T18:28:14.455+02:002010-06-19T18:28:14.455+02:00Yes, I realise that. But we don't have to agre...Yes, I realise that. But we don't have to agree all the time about everything, or do we?The_Editrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529769143608862966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18369530.post-68738993358473870262010-06-19T18:15:58.068+02:002010-06-19T18:15:58.068+02:00Well, we have already had some notable disagreemen...Well, we have already had some notable disagreements. I don't know if I made it clear, but I am the same Fabio P.Barbieri who had a notable passage-of-quills with you about incest and Genetically Conditioned Attraction - and falling in love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18369530.post-43132836231132641282010-06-19T15:55:01.229+02:002010-06-19T15:55:01.229+02:00You are right about the Dutch. I forgot euthanasia...You are right about the Dutch. I forgot euthanasia, which is unforgivable.<br /><br />When it comes to Fallaci, I admit that we may be seeing her from different angles, both as a man and a woman and as an Italian and a German. Of course a criminal can have a strong personality and there is nothing wrong about saying so, however, to me, her description of Khomeini had a definite whiff of admiration. Her dismissal of men like Kissinger et al. is exactly in line with what I find so irritating about her, namely her self-seeking lifestyle. I think every woman who brings up children decently and sticks to a boring middleclass life with a boring middleclass man does infinitely more for society than a Fallaci. What is worse, she sets a bad example for the many Joanie de Rijkes of this world who think they can do it too.<br /><br />But that is just my opinion and one can see it, of course, differently.The_Editrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529769143608862966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18369530.post-3001799146874314922010-06-19T15:37:24.939+02:002010-06-19T15:37:24.939+02:00I think you misrepresent Oriana Fallaci. What she...I think you misrepresent Oriana Fallaci. What she said about Khomeini was negative: he was the head of something dangerous for the whole world. He was one of the few people she had interviewed who did not look as though he had come to his position by luck and who clearly knew what he was about, but he was a villain. By contrast, she said, most of the people she met - Kissinger being a classic example - showed no root of greatness or any particular reason why they should be deciding the fates of millions rather than being clerks or teacher assistants somewhere. Is it to praise a criminal, to say that he has a strong personality? I don't think so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18369530.post-47432763406240723282010-06-19T15:29:53.666+02:002010-06-19T15:29:53.666+02:00I hate the way one, being German, is treated in th...<i>I hate the way one, being German, is treated in that pokey little country (it has become a bit better over the years, but I still hate them), I hate that they nevertheless have no compunctions about taking our money</i><br />You just described Switzerland and Italy! But I also admit that if there is a people towards whom I am racist, it is the Dutch. And the reason is simple - euthanasia. Killing the old and the sick is NOT moral progress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com