January 08, 2007

Ending the Dialogue Dialie?

This made the headlines today in the Swiss- and, to a lesser extent, in the Austrian media. Let's hope Germany will follow soon:
Pope striving for examination (of Christianity) by religious leaders
Rome - During mass, celebrating Epiphany, Pope Benedict XVI has asked the leaders of other religions to embark on an examination of Jesus Christ. (ht/sda)

He invites them to approach the "light of Christ" who went into being to "complete" the religious history of civilisation, "not to dismiss it", the church father said in his sermon at St Peter's Cathedral.

Benedict compared The Adoration of the Magi with the "three constitutive dimensions of modern mankind: politics, science and religion", which all three need "the light of Christ".

After the service the pope prayed Angelus for thousands of worshippers from the window of his office at St Peter's Square.
(Translation mine!)

May God grant a long life to the lonely old man in the Vatican.

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55 Years ago: Brothers Georg and Joseph Ratzinger at their ordination.


Anonymous said...


I'm still having problems with our Pope's futile and groveling trip to Turkey. I've been somewhat disillusioned with the political actions of our Church for some time now. A few years ago, Tariq Aziz was welcomed like a celebrity at the Vatican. A real Pope would have cast him down on the Vatican steps and given him the choice of excommunication or donning a hairshirt and cleaning the Vatican stables for the rest of his life as penance for serving Saddam.

Now all of this to-do about Saddam being executed, which is just grotesquely absurd. The Vatican should be able to see that keeping Saddam alive would lead to more "reconciliation" problems in Iraq (news interviews, a "Free Saddam" movement by leftists and violent jailbreak attempts by renegade Baathists) than his death.

The_Editrix said...

Well, what can I say... there is a lot of truth in what you are saying.

I guess it is not easy to remedy the mistakes his Quran-kissing predecessor made, and while I do not see the trip to Turkey as grovelling, it was seen so by the Muslims, whose propaganda was (are we amazed?) taken up by the Western media.

Benedict himself has been quite open about the reality of how Islam is a threat to Christianity and Western values and has been already wgen he was still Cardinal Ratzinger. He has spoken in favour of converts from Islam to Christianity and even Christians proselytizing Muslims. He has, too, criticised the West's unwillingness to acknowledge its Christian roots, criticised multiculturalism and, most of all, ethical relativism.

I found this at the comment section of Robert Spencer's blog:

"A woman claims she is a Catholic Priest and leads Sunday services. A week later, the Pope holds a press conference and says: "Women cannot be priests. She is not, and has not ever been, a priest in the Roman Catholic Church." The woman lay-priest holds a press conference to call for women's rights in the Catholic Church. The New York Times runs the woman's call for priestly equality on the front page, vilifying the Roman Catholic Church.

A woman leads the Friday afternoon prayers at a Muslim mosque. Before the end of Friday prayers, an angry Muslim crowd has gathered outside the mosque. Angry Muslims picket the mosque calling her names and the picket signs read "Evil Woman!", "Allah will see you burn in hell!", "Whore!". Before the next dawn she receives death threats from Muslims at home and abroad. The New York Times ignores the story."

It is difficult for the old man to do much when he is backstabbed by those who ought to be "naturally" on his side.

Anonymous said...


Whatever Pope Benedict is doing, it's not enough. All over the world Imams call for the overthrow of all other religions and Christians live in subjugation (at the very least) under Islamic rulers. There are no churches allowed in Saudi Arabia, yet we have mosques in Rome.

I long for a Pope to take matters into his own hands and start a forceful call of Catholics to resist both encroachment at home and subjugation abroad. Perhaps the Pope can spur what some places in the EU are finally starting to do.

I don't see Benedict doing any of this, however. For some strange reason, "Turn the other cheek" has oddly been ensconced as the most important of all of the things Christ ever said. It's so strongly adhered to that it's become a veritable suicide pact.

Perhaps our Church will be fortunate and our next Pope will be one of those firebrand Cardinals from South America, hardened through years of resisting and condemning communist guerillas.